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Jul 13 / Ozymandias

Follow up: The Day After Comcast’s Data Cap Policy Killed my Internet [Updated]

[Thanks for visiting! There are five key posts to read around the Broadband ISP Data Cap issue. I’d suggest you read the first, the second, a wrap-up with tough questions for ISPs, an update with a complaint to the Attorney General, and then press coverage in that order. You are currently reading the second post. In addition, I highly recommend you read my responses (published by VentureBeat) to the evasive responses we received to my tough questions to ISPs. I believe they highlight inconsistencies and deliberate attempts at obfuscation, and may prove useful to press and officials interested in advancing the conversation.]

[Edit: Fixed the year Comcast put their bandwidth cap in place from 1998 to 2008. Brainfart on my part!]

My post yesterday generated some news articles and a great deal of feedback. I wanted to take a moment to address some of that feedback, especially to clarify areas of confusion or address common themes I saw.

Before I do so, I’d like to thank a few people:

Kotaku, Gizmodo, and other Gawker sites for reposting (with permission) my original blog post on this subject.

Ryan Singel of Wired for taking the time to interview me and write this article on the same.

The following sites who have since picked up on my post (to be expanded):

And everyone who has commented, “Liked”, emailed me directly, or forwarded this post to friends… thank you for your support!

Now onward.

Why didn’t you/don’t you use Comcast Business service? They don’t have data caps!

I didn’t use Comcast Business service in the past because it was significantly more expensive, and I didn’t believe I needed their advertised features. I used a standard $60/month 15 Mb down/3 Mb up plan for 9+ years without the slightest issue. Only in the last several months as I began to use cloud-based services such as Carbonite’s online backup and Amazon’s unlimited cloud music storage did I have a problem.

Looking forward, I’ll first say that I’d be hesitant to use Comcast for anything ever again for obvious reasons. However, the marketplace really isn’t competitive in Seattle for what I define as highspeed (>10 Mbps) broadband – Comcast is the only real gig in town. So I decided to look into what a Business plan would cost me if I were to choose that option.

Comcast Business has four plans:

  • Deluxe 100/50 – 100 Mb down/50 Mb up for $395 a month
  • Deluxe 50/10 – 50 Mb down/10 Mb up for $195 a month
  • Premium 22/5 – 22 Mb down/5 Mb up for $105 a month
  • Starter 12/2 – 12 Mb down/2 Mb up for $65 a month

The only plan that’s even close to my $60/month 15 Mb up consumer plan is the Starter 12/2 plan for $65 a month. So at first blush I’d be paying slightly more for slightly less speed, but no data caps.

But wait – it’s “new service” with “specialized hardware”, so they can’t just turn on the plan. Instead I have to choose from a plan commitment tier. If I commit for the shortest period of time (one year), my install/setup fee is $199. If I go and commit to three years with Comcast Business, they’ll reduce that fee down to $49.

All right – so let’s discuss what the hardware is. The sales rep suggested that no matter what tier I really want I start with the Deluxe 100/50 plan so I get the “higher-end hardware” – which I can keep even if I call and downgrade to a different tier the day after the install. That set my spideysense off, and so I pushed a little bit on what exactly this “higher-end” hardware is. Turns out it’s a DOCSIS 3.0 modem. Ok… but I already own my own modem, a Motorola SURFboard eXtreme Broadband Cable Modem-SB6120, and I don’t want to lease another.

Sorry, that’s not an option. You cannot self-install, and cannot use anything but the Comcast supplied endpoints. Now I’ll grant there might be good reasons around manageability and the higher quality of service Comcast is promising to use their hardware. But I’m pretty darn sure that if I were to swap out their modem with mine and somehow able to activate it on the network it would work perfectly. (And in fact, a Broadband Reports forum poster claims that “Some have been able to beg/negotiate using a standard cable modem with a dynamic IP Business Class service, but that is a rare exception to the rule.”)

Now, let’s say all this hasn’t put me off from coming on board, and I want to sign up for the Starter plan and pay more for less service, all to remove an arbitrary data cap. Can I?

Nope! Turns out that once Comcast has cut your broadband account for violating their data cap policy you are verboten from being a Comcast customer for 1 year. That’s right:

After being cut off from Comcast’s consumer internet plan due to using too much data, I’m told I’m ineligible to use Comcast’s recommended solution, their business internet plan that allows the unlimited use of data — solely because I made the mistake of actually using “too much” data in the first place.

As the sales rep said in my Google Voicemail message, “what’s interesting is that if you would have started off on the business side of the house, since we don’t have a cap limitations [sic] you would’ve been fine.”

Fascinating.

But wait… it keeps going. Just this afternoon in discussions with a TV reporter I found that Comcast’s Business service requires you to have a Taxpayer Identification Number (or TIN) to prove that you’re a “real” business. And Stacey Higginbotham’s Gigaom article included this nice snippet:

Residential service isn’t clear-cut anymore: When looking at this guy’s usage, it’s possible that he was using his connection for work, which prompted Douglas to point out that he had signed up for a residential connection. This is a common ISP response when people bemoan their limited caps in the context of uploading files or sharing videos as part of their jobs. But when I asked if Vrignaud would even be eligible for a business connection, Douglas didn’t know. He said that the business people would want to make sure the connection was for a legitimate business which means they would ask for a Tax ID number or some other verification. While a freelancer might have that, a remote worker wouldn’t and would then have to get their employer involved in getting a connection. In some cases, although not necessarily in this one, folks in residential areas cannot even get a business connection.

Problem 1 — the work I am doing is currently supporting other consultants, and I have not actually created my own, personal business and applied for a TIN. Remember, until a few months ago I worked at Amazon. I see conflicting reports on the net about whether or not I could get a business class account from Comcast using my name and Social Security Number, and it doesn’t even seem as though Comcast knows for sure.

Problem 2 — how exactly does Comcast believe that a Business class internet account is an option for their consumer internet subscribers who use more than the allotted data cap? I’m an edge case, and might actually go off and get a TIN; 99 out of 100 of Comcast’s average consumers never will. And that’s completely ignoring the fact that Comcast won’t even allow past data cap offenders to migrate over once they’ve been cut off.

What do you mean internet should be defined a lifeline utility, and a right?! Companies aren’t required to provide you service if they don’t want your business!

This is the actually the crux of my “internet should be a right” point.

Many utilities are considered to be protected, and have laws in place to protect consumers:

Typically, “protected utility services” are the essential utilities needed for everyday life: Water, gas and electric (for power and heat), and a telephone line (usually land-based or “land-lines” only – cell phones usually aren’t protected). The rules vary from state to state, so make sure you check the laws in your area to see if and when your utilities may be turned off.

In general, though, most states that protect essential utilities follow some basic rules:

  • Essential utilities can’t be shut off, even for unpaid bills, during the “winter months,” which usually is measured from a specific day in November to a specific day in March, April, or even May
  • Elderly customers, and those who are seriously ill or suffering from a “life-threatening illness,” and customers who care for young children (usually less than one year old) mostly qualify for protection from shutoffs. Also, in some states, if you care for someone who’s elderly or seriously ill in your home, you’re also protected
  • In some cases, you have to make arrangements to repay any outstanding utility bills, as well as the new charges for services during the winter months
  • You typically need verification from a doctor that you or someone you’re caring for is seriously ill
  • In some states, you have to be suffering a financial hardship, such as the loss of a job, and be elderly or seriously ill, or caring for someone who is, or caring for an infant. In these states you’ll likely have to fill out forms proving your financial condition and inability to pay

- Lawyers.com: Consumer Contracts/What Are Protected Utility Services?

Today the internet is effectively a requirement to do a job search, find information, and stay connected. Commenters on my original post highlighted that there are food stamp programs completely managed via the internet – in other words, no internet access, no food. Some colleges require online access to register or do administrative functions – and to be clear, these aren’t internet-only/online schools. Even the United Nations believes internet access is a fundamental human right.

Libraries and other public facilities can only go so far toward satisfying this need, and as such I do strongly believe that all human beings have the right to access the internet, and that that right should be protected as an essential utility service.

You’re a Bittorrenting bastard who refuses to pay for content. Admit it!

Not really. I happily pay for content when it’s available, including a three disc Netflix/streaming subscription, a two disc Gamefly subscription, DirecTV, Pandora One (higher quality audio streams), downloadable game purchases from Steam, Xbox LIVE, and PlayStation Network, iDevice apps for my iPhone and iPad, as well as one-off streaming movie rentals from Xbox LIVE and PSN. However, in the spirit of full disclosure, I’m a Doctor Who fan and due to BBC America’s inability to release current episodes in a timely manner in the US (to either DirecTV or Netflix), I did grab the first two episodes of the current season from bittorrent earlier this month. However, that accounts for about about 1 gigabyte of data total – doesn’t explain the other missing 249 gigabytes. This is why it’s frustrating that Comcast either can’t or won’t share with me what applications were using the data they claim was used. I can’t trace the source back, and hence have to assume the issue is the uploading I was doing to the cloud.

You read Comcast’s Terms of Service and agreed to them. You were warned, and then you were cancelled. You deserve what you got!

I don’t remember the Terms of Service I assume I viewed eight or more years ago when I first signed up for Comcast. It’s reasonable to believe Comcast had some clause somewhere that I agreed to that allowed them to change those terms at will, and I’ll admit I missed the change. I’ll also admit that even if the new data cap policy had been explicitly called out to me, I would have likely accepted it as A) I wouldn’t have thought it would affect me, and B) I had no other competitive options available to me. I’ll even go so far as to say that I should have connected the dots sooner and realized my uploading data to Carbonite’s backup service and Amazon’s Cloud Drive would count against the data cap. However, I didn’t.

I suspect I didn’t make the connection because I believe most people think of broadband bandwidth in terms of “download,” and have not really internalized the new requirement of “upload” to really be able to use the new wave of cloud services.

This is understandable since, until recently, doing almost anything on the broadband internet required having a fat download pipe to you. And so logically, broadband companies have focused on that aspect in their marketing — here’s a screenshot I took off Comcast.com this morning as an example:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This “download speed is the only thing that matters” perception problem is further aggravated because Comcast misses many opportunities to disclose their data cap (and educate customers as to the combined effects of uploading and downloading data on that cap) in their order flow.

Ok, let me be a bit blunter. I can’t find Comcast’s data cap policy disclosed anywhere up to the final “Review and Submit” option in the order flow. Don’t take my word for it – try it for yourself, starting here.

The closest I get is a “Call for restrictions and complete details” sentence at the bottom of the “Details and Restrictions” pop-up:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can also find similar “Call your local Comcast office for restrictions and complete details about service, prices, and equipment in your area” language on the bottom of the “Review and Submit” page. But that’s all I can find in the order flow up to this page.

Now, I’m sure Comcast discloses the data cap in some fashion after this point. Perhaps it’s on click-through agreement page they send you later, or on the installer paperwork you sign. My main point is that the entire online ordering process appears to be designed to highlight and promote download speeds while obfuscating disadvantages such as a data cap policy. And that lack of data cap policy disclosure during this process does nothing to raise awareness in consumers that both upload and download data consumption is measured and capped, and could affect your use of the new wave of cloud services.

Would you ever use Comcast again?

Maybe.

While I am not happy with the decisions Comcast’s executive team makes, I have been surprised by how polite and helpful different individuals at Comcast try to be. They’re often hampered by Comcast’s backend systems and policy decisions, and rarely have the power to make any significant decisions on their own, but they do try. And I appreciate those I’ve spoken to who have expressed sympathy and sly agreement with my irritation at Comcast’s policies.

I’ve also always been happy with the overall stability and performance of my broadband service from Comcast. I may not like the company, the obtuse billing, limited promotions, and general aggravation to get things set up, but once it’s running it just works. And that counts for a lot in my book.

To sum up, I’d prefer to have truly competitive broadband offerings here in Seattle so I could pick and choose based on price and performance. And if Comcast won in a fair fight, I’d use them. But the sad reality is that today Comcast is the only game in down for >10 Mbps broadband service to the home. So depending on my experience with other competitors, there’s a reasonable chance I’d come back to them – irritated and grumpy – if only to just not worry about having fast and stable internet access. And hey, with no data cap I might even go into business and stream HD cat juggling videos to the world 24/7… you know. If that’s what you’re into.

What do you expect to come from all this? What’s next? What can I do?

My hope is that this discussion is one more feather of awareness added to the “broadband is an essential utility” side of the scale. And that over time, a combination of experiences such as mine, your comments, and public opinion help change Comcast’s policies and/or the laws in this country and protect what I believe is a right to connect to the internet.

I also hope that companies like Comcast change their data cap policies in particular. Comcast doesn’t need to completely cut off people who are (in theory) stressing the network. Just to toss out some ideas:

  • Throttle data speed after reaching whatever a reasonable, transparent data cap is. Note that this is different than Comcast’s pre-2008 policy of arbitrarily throttling data speed at any time; I’m specifically saying the ISP would only throttle data after the customer has in theory impacted the network, if needed to protect other users’ experiences.
  • Double or triple the data cap, or justify why 250 GB is the “right” number. This 250 GB data cap was set in 2008 without customer, FCC, or government input, and has not changed since. This is in spite of dropping costs and ever expanding bandwidth.
  • Charge for blocks of add-on data for any data use exceeding a previously disclosed and discussed-with-the-community data cap. But whatever you do, don’t cut people off from the lifeline of the internet.
  • Adjust your policies to incorporate the new reality of large-scale upload-required cloud services. Many of these services require a one-time large burst of data to get the initial backup done; data use afterward will be relatively small to update changed files and upload new content. Consider “looking away” at data destined for services such as Amazon’s Music Cloud Drive, or backup services such as Carbonite.

In short, I don’t understand Comcast’s argument that they need to cut people off from broadband service for overuse when the cost and availability of that service continues to drop and expand respectively. Nor do I understand why they don’t use alternative solutions such as those suggested above.

Comcast has other, more customer-friendly solutions available that they seem to shy away from. And Occam’s Razor seems to suggest the path they have chosen is to protect their existing TV business and hinder the growth of competitive streaming solutions such as Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, and others. I actually think being blocked from using data-heavy cloud services such as Carbonite or Amazon’s Cloud Drive is a side-effect of their goal of protecting their existing business, and not an explicit goal in itself. But it impacts consumers all the same.

So what’s next?

Well, first off, I’ve got to go do some real consulting work, and so won’t be able to spend quite as much time as I have on this for a few days. I have existing projects to land, and interestingly, several other opportunities have popped up thanks to this whole discussion. So if you want some consulting done around your games, platforms, or entertainment and technology products (including media positioning and messaging), drop me a line! Might as well turn the time I’ve spent on this into something that feeds the dogs. (And believe it or not, that includes you Comcast. We may disagree on a lot, but I’m willing to help you with your customer perception problems if you’re sincerely looking to make changes in the right direction.)

Beyond that, in the long run I’m not worried. The public (you!) know what’s right and what’s wrong, and you elect the politicians that will eventually see the light. The majority of people who have read this blog, sent me mail, and commented agree that internet access is a critical aspect of life today. Intuitively we all know this, and the more that situations like mine occur, the more light is cast upon anti-competitive practices such as Comcast’s current data cap policy.

It’s already happening. Just look at the Wired article that was just published on this topic. Comcast has moved from ignoring the subject to bringing out their spokespeople. It’s the Streisand effect, and the more you keep the issue alive, the more Comcast has to react, which perpetuates the PR flywheel. They’ll change their policy in time – we can just hope it’s not too long a wait. And I mean this sincerely: I hope we can all work with them to land on reasonable solutions that work for everyone.

My only last wish? Wouldn’t it be great for Jon Stewart and The Daily Show to pick all this up? Just saying.

Related posts:

  1. The Day Comcast’s Data Cap Policy Killed my Internet for 1 Year [Updated]
  2. Comcast Data Cap Policy News Coverage [Updated]
  3. A Cloudy Future [Updated]
  4. Update on Comcast Data Cap Situation (Including Complaint with WA Attorney General)
  • Gpg

    One of your roommates cannot get service at your location? …perhaps as a workaround to the “policy?” Business class would be ideal going forward…if possible.

  • Usualsuspect

    “I do strongly believe that all human beings have the right to access
    the internet, and that that right should be protected as an essential
    utility service.”   You can still get access to the internet.  I believe there are still some dial up ISP’s around you could use.  Not what you are used to, but still better than many in less developed nations have, eh?  

  • Pjskelton

    Probably you shouldn’t move to New Zealand then. My broadband account (admittedly a mobile broadband account but broadly similar to local landline plans) costs nz$90 for a 6GB data cap with, at best, around 1 MBit download and 300k upload. More typical download speed is around 700KBit. I have to watch my data use like a hawk, even browsing YouTube occasionally can eat my entire allotment.

    Again, lack of competition is a problem here. The entire copper network is run by Telecom NZ, so all other ISPs must buy their bandwidth from them wholesale, making it near impossible to undercut Telecom. Hopefully a recent law change ordering the ‘unbundling’ of the telecom network to allow greater competition and discourage price gouging will get things back on track, and a proposed new fibre optic network will speed things up. Fingers crossed.

  • Joe E

    So to put my bias out there, let me be clear that I hate ALL cable internet, period.  Comcast, RR, BrightHouse, etc.  I think they are the worst method for internet access not to mention they all seem to have a rather scummy business model.  My wife and I both do IT so we rely heavily upon the internet since we both work remote, but in the past I went with 1.5Mb DSL just to avoid cable internet (20MB was the cable offering).  Presently, I have FiOS which I believe you were referring to when you mentioned Verizon; and for that I’m sorry to hear you can’t get it.  Every time I’ve had cable (whether TV and/or internet) once it rains, it all goes out – I’ve not had a single outage with FiOS yet. (OK, enough of my Verizon “commercial”).  Although I do wonder if FiOS has a hidden cap that I don’t know about…

    That said, I think what Comcast is doing is absolutely rotten and I hope they receive more negative publicity than they know how to handle, but nonetheless they are a business and I’d much rather they have the right to run their business into the ground than the gov’t have any authority whatsoever over them.

    Part of me wants to see internet ruled as a utility, but the other part of me doesn’t – mainly for fear of how gov’t will destroy the internet.  Anything they touch, they destroy. I understand the “internet as a utility” argument and partially agree with it, but again once the gov’t (and/or UN) becomes involved, it just goes downhill.  For those who say it’s required for job searches, school logins, etc I would simply say, “iPad; other tablet; aircard; phone tethering; etc”.  Those don’t require Comcast; but you can use AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, library internet, coffee shops, and so forth. I really don’t see value in saying that internet must be a utility (specifically, at your place of residence).

    While I agree with 99.9% of your complaint, the only part I would call you out on is this:
    “However, in the spirit of full disclosure, I’m a Doctor Who fan and due to BBC America’s inability to release current episodes in a timely manner in the US (to either DirecTV or Netflix), I did grab the first two episodes of the current season from bittorrent earlier this month.”

    NOT because you might be a pirate (for if I call you that, then I must look in the mirror and say the same thing) but rather because this is the first season of Doctor Who in which every episode is played the VERY same day as it is in the UK, so I’m not sure why you believe it’s not being delivered to the US in a sufficient manner of time.  Being in Seattle, that means you might have an approximate 12 hour wait after it airs in the UK (including UK time difference and they have an earlier in-the-day showing); if you can’t wait that long, then you might have another personal issue to deal with.  If it’s a reference to the fact that it’s not on On-Demand, then try a DVR. I guess I simply don’t understand why you have problems watching Doctor Who – my wife and I are huge fans and we don’t mind the ~8 hour time difference between when it airs in the UK and until it airs in the US (East Coast) (again, including the UK time difference and earlier-in-the-day showing in the UK).  As for piracy, well….when we’re all in IT, it’s what we do, so I won’t condemn you for that :)

    • Monkinto Master

      In the U.S. with at least some shows you have to wait up to a month before they become available on the internet or even on demand. Some shows don’t even bother to update their on demand with any of the latest season.

  • Anonymous

    Comcast should have just offered you the option to buy additional 250G allowances at $25/month.  The company clearly has serious problems with customer service and marketing.

    But you could have made this problem go away easily by just buying a second data connection.  Oh, and don’t buy HD movies online, they will kill your data cap.

  • Anonymous

    Comcast should have just offered you the option to buy additional 250G allowances at $25/month.  The company clearly has serious problems with customer service and marketing.

    But you could have made this problem go away easily by just buying a second data connection.  Oh, and don’t buy HD movies online, they will kill your data cap.

  • Anonymous

    Get your terminology correct, it is an EIN that Comcast requires (an employer identification number), not a taxpayer identification number.  Do you have a business license with the City of Seattle and Washington State, as required by law, it would make your argument for a business account with Comcast easier if you did.  An EIN is not that hard to obtain, BTW.

    Since you are a frequent flier in terms of violating the TOS/AUP with Comcast and ignoring their warnings, I imagine the next unwelcome issue in your life will be the Washington State Department of Revenue calling upon you for failing to have a business license.

    Pretty sketchy.

  • Anonymous

    Get your terminology correct, it is an EIN that Comcast requires (an employer identification number), not a taxpayer identification number.  Do you have a business license with the City of Seattle and Washington State, as required by law, it would make your argument for a business account with Comcast easier if you did.  An EIN is not that hard to obtain, BTW.

    Since you are a frequent flier in terms of violating the TOS/AUP with Comcast and ignoring their warnings, I imagine the next unwelcome issue in your life will be the Washington State Department of Revenue calling upon you for failing to have a business license.

    Pretty sketchy.

  • Bill

    I think it is pretty absurd for Comcast to cut the service off for a year.  People have varying needs.  They should offer plans at various levels of usage (My cable company has 500 gigs, 750 gigs and unlimited) for my 100 down / 5 up residental service.  They came out with these plans after much debate.

    Comcast should do the same, and price their service accordingly.

  • Uncle Buck.

    You are a spoiled child, much like the rest of the residents of Seattle.

    • http://ozymandias.com Ozymandias

      Interesting opinion. Care to back that up with facts so the spoiled residents of Seattle can have a real conversation on the topic? Otherwise, you’re trolling.

      Normally I’d delete such obvious trolls or spam, but I believe this is an important issue and so have approved every comment except for a very few (media reaching out with contact information, that sort of ting).

  • http://twitter.com/slappsys Shawn

    I have to
    agree with Arthur on the melodrama. The blog is obviously based on your
    emotional response to someone taking away from you an essential communications
    medium for today’s modern infrastructure.

    Look, here
    is the deal:

    The
    “internet” is there for you and everyone else to use as much as you
    want. What is not there for anyone to use as much as they want is the
    connections to the internet created by for-profit companies such as Comcast.

    As much as
    we all want to hate these companies for controlling how we conduct our digital
    habits, your responsibility is to choose not to use their service if it is not
    what you want! Period and end of story.

    Now… that
    said,  what is a huge problem and this is
    something most customers should definitely be in uproar about, is how companies
    like AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, Comcast and Time Warner regularly advertise
    all the ways you can use the internet services they provide without disclosing
    up front plainly the limitations included.

    There seems
    to be plenty of advertising campaigns aimed at potential customers using words
    like “download”, “music”, “mp3s”,
    “stream”, “movies” and “UNLIMITED”. That’s great
    and gets the point across quickly but unfortunately it also sets up situations
    such as this where someone was told to use the service through advertising and
    did.

    Who gives a
    flying rats behind about what this guy is doing with his internet connection
    and how exactly a bandwidth cap was reached. The fact of the matter is, a
    company said use our service, the service was used and then the company disabled
    that service due to over use. How would you like the local government to tell
    you, go ahead use the roads to drive around, then they suddenly fine you for
    over driving on those same roads because you like taking extra trips around
    town? How would you like your car to suddenly stop running because you have put
    too many miles on it in one months’ time? Remember driving is a privilege and
    not a right!

    If I were to
    have say an interest group chasing these guys, I may go after misleading advertisement
    to punish them and punish them harshly I would. It is only now that stories
    such as these make it to news headlines that people are becoming aware of
    bandwidth caps on services they already have. That does not say much for the
    communication companies business practices. The decisions made right now
    regarding these issues will shape and mold our future and how we use the
    internet. Do you want the internet to be like another tax? Something you will
    surely pay for until your dead, or do you want access to this communication
    medium to be at least one thing in this world free and for everyone?

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  • http://daow.net Ace

    Leaving a short comment.

    The world really does need more people like you.

    I too agree that the internet should be a human right.  My pleasure and my business depend on it, and when my net goes out, I feel like I have nothing to do with my time.

    To some people, that would seem backwards. To those with our lives, the opposite is true, but hey, some people don’t understand the difference between subjective and objective opinions.

    The broadband plan set by Obama is pathetic, to a point.  By 2015, 100Mbps will be standard, 250Mbps should be easily accessable, and 500Mbps or even 1Gbps should be available to enthusiasts who want it.  By then, some people could still be on 5Mbps and paying $40 a month for it, probably even with a cap. But hey, they’re on broadband, right? *sigh*

    Also, upload is just as important as download in my opinion.  And on that, my ISP previously had a cap on their service, like Comcast, except it wasn’t defined.  It was completely random and even their ToS they never stated the variables required to kick it on.  When you got capped, your speed was throttled to not much faster from 56k.   They had a 4 strike plan.  I was one strike away from having my service terminated, but by that time I had upgraded to their higher tier, in which, after a while, we found out that the higher tier had no caps.  A few months (maybe near a year) after that, they removed all throttling from their entire service, and it’s been unlimited bandwidth ever since.

    The worst part about it? It wasn’t on downloads. You could download for hours straight and never get capped, but if you uploaded at your max speed for more than 5 minutes, you could potentially get capped. It was absolutely pathetic and the DSLR (dslreports.com) forums were filled with many complaints during that time.

    But, this comment isn’t short anymore, and I’m tired, so I’m going to abruptly end it here.  As I said before, I agree with everything you’ve said, and I feel your loss, albeit mine was nowhere near as harsh. (though it would’ve been if I got another strike!)

  • Claude

    It is interesting to see that people here are saying that 250 gigs is a lot, and this guy must be doing something wrong to go over that amount. 

    I am not much of a photographer but in one or two hours I can upload over 2 gigs of photos (jpegs only not RAW) from one day of shooting with my entry level DSLR to smugmug.com. When you add music ripped from CD’s in lossless format and RAW images backed up to the cloud it becomes much easier to exceed 250 gigs in one month. No Bitorrent needed.I think that in the near future these caps are going to start affecting a lot more people. those who think 250 GB is a boatload of data transfer are going to change their tune when HD content on Netflix and similar sites become more prevalent and they start to utilize more features of the cloud.Now the question becomes, if internet connections continue to increase in speed and the consumers movement towards the “cloud” and online entertainment in the form of Netflix, Pandora, etc, etc continues, why is Comcast implementing harsh data caps? Since the data caps run counter to the movement of the internet it would seem that these policies in the long run will hurt their business. But unfortunately in many cases ISP’s are monopolies in the areas that they serve so it might not hurt them enough to matter. This is one reason why Gov’t regulation in this area is needed. 

  • Keli

    It’s pretty crappy that they didn’t at least let you know that you were near cut off.

  • Andrea

    I don’t understand why they don’t just allow people to purchase a second monthly service plan if they hit the cap. If there are two people in your household, why not allow two plans and increase the usage to 500 GB.

    These people who use the internet for email and reading blogs only just don’t understand that not everyone uses the internet in the same way. What if they started limiting the number of television shows you could watch each month? What if they started limited the number of telephone calls you could make from your home phone? Would THAT affect you?

    You can sit on your high horses and complain about those of us who use Netflix regularly, or people like me who have to upload massive video files for clients for their business, etc., because you think it doesn’t affect YOU. But what if it did?

    The internet service I use (Clearwire) is the only one I can use where I am. I can’t get any wire-based internet, because the place I live will not allow it. They allow 15GB per month. 15! Can you imagine? This affects me deeply, because I have no car and it’s one of the only “fun” things we have. I pay for Netflix so I have something for my family to do. But we can’t use it, because if we do, we get throttled down to .5 Mb/s. And if we use more, we could get shut off permanently.

    It’s a lot easier than you think to hit caps like these.

  • Robert

    I feel your pain brother. I live in the cuts and while I can get Comcast TV, I cannot get Comcast internet for whatever reason. I used to be a cable contractor too and I was around during the giant infrastructure update so I wonder why they didn’t bother to install Docsis into their hubs in the process during the update it is beyond me. My only option out here is 1.5 dsl which from what I’ve seen its 1.3mbit and of course my only option out here is to accept what I have or move and considering how little I pay for the cost of living moving is not what I want to do but coming from using Comcast 15down service to this slow DSL service I’m stuck. Comcast alienates people, even though my town has 3000 people living here they still consider to alienate us. :sigh: Corporate assholes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1073904257 Tony Pearson

    In my house we have 6 computers, 1 wii, 1 Xbox, 4 ipod touches. Each of these is connected to the internet downloading updates, apps and other goodies. The Wii and Xbox stream video through Netflix. We use over 8 GB a day just playing on our computers, as of right now I have used 267 GB on my Comcast, I’m actually surprised its still running. On thing I have noticed is when I’m doing a big download, say 750 MB, it will get to 725 MB then get disconnected, having to start over from the beginning! Wow, what about that bandwidth that was just wasted? What about when one of my roommates takes a week off work and sits and watches 4 movies a day for a week off netflix? I watched as the usage went up from 195 GB to 240 in 4 days! That is normal! That is just one roommate, what about the rest of us when we want to check email? I haven’t even been online today and it has gone up 8 GB in 24 hours! My computers are disconnected from the internet cuz I’m worried it will go over. I get on just to check my email and to look at my ebay things. I am getting ready to open a business account, I do have a TIN, an EIN, any F…IN’ u need to get this thing going. They do need to raise the limit due to Streaming video and such. It is a crazy thing they got going on here in Western Washington!

  • Matkordell

    You, like so many others in Seattle, are a whiner. You were not just shut off out of nowhere, they shut you off and warned you multiple times. If I were the owner of another ISP like centurylink or verizon I would black-list you and not provide service out of fear that you might abuse my service and whine about it when I excersize my right to refuse.

    I think you should shut up and walk to the library if you need to access your “basic human right”… WTF is wrong with your brain?

  • Matkordell

    Not sure if you’re censoring posts or what but my previous post seems to have disappeared… Did you not think that my point was valid?

    I really think you should reconsider otherwise I may write an overly emotional, long winded post on my blog and send it to a bunch of underground media sources and government officials to whine about the fact that your impeding my 1st amendment right.

    Why don’t you leave this post up and let your readers love, hate or, more likely, not care one bit about what I have to say. Maybe you could put my last post back too.