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The Day Comcast’s Data Cap Policy Killed my Internet for 1 Year [Updated]

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[Thanks for visiting! There are five key posts to read around the Broadband ISP Data Cap issue. I’d suggest you read the first, the second, a wrap-up with tough questions for ISPs, an update with a complaint to the Attorney General, and then press coverage in that order. You are currently reading the first post. In addition, I highly recommend you read my responses (published by VentureBeat) to the evasive responses we received to my tough questions to ISPs. I believe they highlight inconsistencies and deliberate attempts at obfuscation, and may prove useful to press and officials interested in advancing the conversation.]

[Edit: added a couple of clarifying comments bracketed [like so] inline below.]

(with thanks to Wired for their image!)

What Happened:

Today I came home to find my 15 MB down/3 MB up Comcast broadband service had been shut off due to exceeding their 250 GB/month data cap policy.

This had happened the month before, and I called and had a polite but irritated conversation with Comcast’s “Customer Security” department (since the regular customer service folks could not help.) According to them I had exceeded their 250 GB monthly cap, and they asked how that might have happened. I told them the simple truth – no idea, other than regular people were probably using it a lot for reasonable things. I have roommates, we stream Netflix HD movies and Pandora music incessantly to multiple devices in the home, and I also have an open access point (in addition to a secured AP that I use to access internal network resources) for guests. I asked if they could share what was using the majority of the data so I could go address it directly, but Comcast refused to share any information there (which is probably appropriate).

I made very clear to the gentleman I spoke with that I thought Comcast’s data cap policy was arbitrary, unfair, and extremely irritating… and that if I had any decent competitive options in the neighborhood I’d dump Comcast in a heartbeat. Since I don’t, I listened to him read his canned warning that if I exceeded their cap again I’d be cut off again. I do not recall details on how long the cut off would be, likely because I spent the next few minutes working with the service agent to add notes to my record about my detailed displeasure with Comcast’s policy here. I specifically noted (and asked that it be recorded) that if this happened again I would contact the FCC, various news organizations, and otherwise make a stink. The CS agent was polite and reactivated my broadband. After hanging up I chatted with my roommates, asked them to keep an eye on bandwidth use, and also deactivated the open AP I had maintained for visitors (with regret, but this was the only area I could think of that I couldn’t completely account for bandwidth use.) Then I forgot about the whole thing until today when I found I’d been cut off again.

I called up Comcast and went through customer service hell – a Comcast special, I might note. First their regular customer service agent couldn’t help me, and sent me to their “Customer Security” group again. The Customer Security agent was polite, and after the standard identification questions notified me I was cut off for a year due to exceeding Comcast’s Acceptable Use Policy limits on their bandwidth cap. I asked for details on what had been using bandwidth, and again, Comcast would not share. In a sudden brainstorm, I then asked whether the 250 GB bandwidth cap applied to just downloads (which I had assumed, as the majority of most bandwidth used in households is downstream bandwidth), or download and upload bandwidth. Surprise, surprise! Comcast measures both upstream and downstream bandwidth – and it suddenly clicked for me.

I’m a photographer and audiophile. I shoot all of my pictures in RAW format, and I store the many hundreds and hundreds of CDs I’ve purchased over the last 20 years or so in a variety of lossless and lossy music formats. In the case of music I rip my CDs to WMA Lossless (for ease of streaming to Windows), FLAC (another lossless format, so I can stream losslessly to my Sonos system), and M4A (also known as Apple’s iTunes AAC format, so I can import my music from the media server to iTunes). I’m a big believer in storing the original, lossless digital content so that I can access it in full fidelity in the future no matter how technology evolves. In some ways that makes me a bit archaic as I still buy (used) CDs from Amazon for all of my music so I can rip it losslessly – I’m not a fan of the compressed music formats you buy and download. But the ramification is that I have terabytes of storage in my basement RAID server – each music track is duplicated three times, I have all of my original RAW photos, plus processed JPEG versions of those RAW photos, as well as a variety of other miscellaneous content – documents, spreadsheets, that sort of thing.

This stuff is valuable to me, and I recently purchased a three-year subscription to Carbonite so I could back all of this content up to the cloud. I also recently saw Amazon’s announcement of being able to upload unlimited M4A/AAC tracks to their Cloud Drive service, and decided to upload my library there so I could access it when on the road. And it turns out uploading all of this content to the cloud triggered Comcast’s bandwidth cap and caused me to be cut off from the internet – again. It was never clear to me that Comcast measures both upload and download bandwidth, and I suspect many people are going to be surprised by this in the coming years, especially as the cloud continues to become more and more a part of our lives.

Anyway, to close out the Comcast call, I asked to be reinstated and he said it was final – no appeal. I asked to escalate to a manager so I could explain my situation, and he stated there was no escalation, and repeated there was no appeal. I then asked for customer service email or other contact information so I could CC the company on a blog post (which you are reading now) and letter I would be sending to the FCC, Public Knowledge organization, New Media Foundation, the city of Seattle’s Mayor’s Office, and my Seattle City Council representative. He said he could connect me to the customer escalation line, but also stated it would not help – they wouldn’t consider removing the cap. At that point I said I wouldn’t bother wasting my time with the customer escalation line, and that I’d like to cancel my broadband. He politely said he understood, and that he’d transfer me to the appropriate department.

Time to return to Comcast customer service hell! After a few minutes I spoke with another gentlemen in the Technical Support and Billing division I’d been transferred to who, surprise, couldn’t help me since I was cancelling my (now defunct) service. He then transferred me to (wait for it!) the Retention department, since they’re apparently the only ones who can cancel a Comcast cable account. Yes, after Comcast applied their ridiculous policy and told me they didn’t want me as a customer, I was transferred to the Retention department where they insisted on driving through their spiel until I could finally interrupt, say it wasn’t going to work, and explain my situation. At which point the agent said: “Oh. I’ll take care of it, thank you for calling Comcast <click>.” As of this moment I have no idea if I’ve been cancelled or not.

[Edit: To clarify, Comcast has cut my broadband with no appeal. The text above about my attempting to cancel my account was my attempt at making sure I don't get charged for a service Comcast is no longer giving me. But right now my cable modem is dead, with no signal going into it.]

My Opinion:

My opinion on all this is simple. The ability to access broadband internet is a right, and should be defined as an essential utility. Just as you’re surprised when you flick a light switch and the light doesn’t come on so are you surprised when the internet goes away in your house. The internet is used for communication, entertainment, business — an entire panopoly of human endeavours. Just as there are protections to keep water and electricity flowing to your house, so should the internet be protected.

Now the broadband companies would strongly disagree with me here. They’re terrified of being turned into dumb pipes that only deliver data. This is why you see such vicious fights over the definition of internet neutrality, and cable companies fighting to be able to restrict services that flow over their pipes, inspect packets, or have the right to charge more for differing levels of service. They try to spin this as protecting the integrity of the network for other customers, and not having to charge more to offer service that some small percentage of their users overuse. However, these same companies are also strangely quiet when you ask them why (as in Comcast’s case) they’re able to keep boosting my broadband speed tier year after year for no additional charge. Or why their quarterly filings show their cost of providing broadband service continues to drop year after year, while rates keep going up. It doesn’t add up.

[Edit: Some disagree with my opinion above. To reiterate, I believe that internet access is a right, and an essential utility that’s needed in today’s life. That’s not supported in any legal definition in the US (though Finland recently made it a point of law, and the United Nations believes broadband access is a basic human right), but I do believe that most people would intuitively agree. Put another way, internet access long ago passed the stage of “new tech that’s interesting” to “something everyone uses and assumes you have”. Hence my electricity and water points – I believe internet falls in the same vein, and also think the current battles/discussions over the ability to control the internet are emblematic of that shared belief coming to the fore.

Several commentators have also noted that internet access is a requirement in some states for food stamp access, to attend some (offline, not internet-only) universities, and even for VoIP over fiber in some communities. This also supports my opinion that internet access is right and should be regulated as an essential utility.]

Ramifications:

Here’s what’s frightening about all this: today Comcast blocked me from using a potentially competitive music service from Amazon. Even worse, today Comcast disconnected me from the ever-evolving cloud services I use each and every day for life and work.

Amazon deserves a lot of credit for pushing the bounds on what we can do on the internet. Their recent announcement of storing unlimited music in their Cloud Drive service is a compelling alternative to Apple’s iCloud solution, and one that many might choose to use – if Comcast allows it. Are you listening Amazon?

And it gets worse – I work as a entertainment industry consultant, and depend on cloud services such as Dropbox, Simplenote, Google Apps, and Google Docs for day to day work. I use streaming online services such as Netflix, Xbox Live, Playstation Network, and Pandora every day for both work and play. I send and receive data all the time and have never had a problem with my $60/month broadband plan until A) Comcast added their data caps, and B) I really started engaging in using new cloud-based services (meaning uploading data to those services so I could get value from them).

Comcast will try to spin this, and say 250 GB is plenty for anyone – and in fact, a large percentage of their network users today probably really don’t hit this cap right now. What they don’t want to say is that streaming services such as Netflix now consume a quarter of network traffic monthly, and is projected to rise – all of which impacts the cable TV services they sell.

The last report in October suggested it made up around twenty percent of internet traffic during prime time, but this time around the stats say it accounts for 30% of traffic during prime time, and 22.2% of daily internet traffic. Sandvine gets the data from ISPs using its broadband technology and now foresees “Real-Time Entertainment” (which includes Netflix) shooting up over 55% of peak internet traffic by the end of this year.
- Engadget: Study finds Netflix is the largest source of internet traffic in North America

And in the Netflix case, 99% of that data is downstream data. Comcast doesn’t broadly advertise the fact that their cap also counts upload data – and I strongly believe as more and more people begin to “get” the cloud they’re going to want to upload their valued data to services where they can engage with it in new and interesting ways. And until broadband is deemed an essential utility, and broadband providers like Comcast can’t set an arbitrary limit and cut people off, our shared cloud-enabled future is at risk. To this end, I will be contacting various political entities in Seattle in the hope of trying to encourage either greater competition and choice in the broadband market (break Comcast’s cable monopoly, and allow fiber to the home!), as well as greater investment in a citywide, city-run broadband network.

What am I Doing:

Well, first off, I’m writing this post to lay out the facts, as well as my opinion, as to the ramifications of broadband companies like Comcast being allowed to enforce data caps and cut people off from the internet. As I mentioned earlier, I will be sending a copy of this blog post to the following people and agencies:

I’ve also tweeted out a summary of what happened, will tweet a link to this blog post, and will also reach out to a few media folks I know in case they’re interested in writing this up. I’ll also be exploring what other broadband options I might have in Seattle – but thanks to Comcast’s monopoly, my choices aren’t great.

That said, if Qwest/CenturyLink (or any other broadband provider) wants to run fiber to my house on the top of the hill in Montlake, Seattle, and put up a broadcast antenna to serve the neighborhood – I’m in. Contact me at the links on this blog, or at andre at ozymandias.com. Seriously.

[Edit: I have since added a follow up post located here. You may wish to read that after finishing reading this current post.]

 

Related posts:

  1. Follow up: The Day After Comcast’s Data Cap Policy Killed my Internet [Updated]
  2. Comcast Data Cap Policy News Coverage [Updated]
  3. A Cloudy Future [Updated]
  4. Update on Comcast Data Cap Situation (Including Complaint with WA Attorney General)
  • Mbatiegm

    Given your high usage why not just get a dedicated T1 or DS3 or something.  It sounds like this is a business so why not just get some type of business account as ISPs do and side step the limits. 

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  • Robtfree

    hi

    if you were the one that complained to the office of communications Seattle..makes you the first one to complain.seems im the second.  i experienced basically the same as you, comcast security calling with a warning and no working metering tool on my account on the  comcast website so i could try to isolate the usage,

    the same bantering with the security person who tried talking over me repeatedly as i spoke, interrupting and reading or having memorized all the pat answers to what ever i said.
    stating not appeal-able and final authority rested with secruity, refuse to give his supervisor name or contact and deemed any question i asked as : ” its not relevant!” and i repeatedly stating i will decide what is relevant
    i just need the information first!

    so if you need more testimony, feel free to contact me..im on beacon hill north near Amazon.
    im game for a class action lawsuit.

    are we expected to be Microsoft A+ certified to use their broad band?
    a montitoring system sending  message reaching 250 gig threshold  would have helped at least,

    not wait till way past…

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  • http://joevillanova.blogspot.com/ Joe Villanova

    I was a Comcast high-speed internet subscriber in late 2005 until I was
    booted 7 months later in the summer of 2006 for violating a fuzzy
    acceptable use policy that was purposely and vaguely written by lawyers
    designed to shield this company from liability. Each month for the
    better part of this and the last decade, Comcast would contact the top
    1,000 users of its 14.4 million user network, regardless of how much
    data they had transferred, and warn them that they were violating the
    acceptable use policy. When users asked what the limit was, they were
    simply told that there are NO LIMITS and that they needed to stay out of
    the top 1,000 user list—something impossible to know.
    In 2008,
    Comcast was sued and paid the state of Florida $150,000 to deal with
    this exact issue and the ambiguity that surrounded it. The state
    attorney general said that “a ‘top 1,000′ criteria, as previously
    applied, did not clearly and conspicuously disclose to the consumer the
    specific amount of bandwidth deemed to be excessive under Comcast’s
    subscriber agreements.”
    In response, Comcast adopted the explicit 250GB/month cap.
    I
    decided to take my fight against them by posting videos on YOU TUBE and
    contacting several media outlets in getting the word out. I can tell
    you that it was the most vicious fight I’ve ever encountered. By my
    actions, I found out that there were others out there that had the same
    experience as I.
    I and other former subscribers demanded that
    they show “proof” of “excessive use” and was repeatedly refused the
    request. What shocked me more, is how defensive this company really is.
    Comcast is scary. They hate net neutrality and don’t like media
    spotlight focusing against them. Brian Roberts is called “The Dark Lord
    Of The Internet”. He is psychopath like Rupert Murdoch determined to be
    the gatekeeper of the flow of information.
    We need real broadband competition not these mediocre services provided by huge greedy monopolies.

    • http://ozymandias.com/ Ozymandias

      Thanks for sharing your experience Joe. Love it if you could post some links to news coverage of this previous incident. I’m trying to build a good news source/archive here so people researching future incidents will find good fodder.

      What’s interesting to me is that today it seems as though Comcast is practicing selective enforcement of their caps. Instead of being on an impossible to predict “list of 1000″, Comcast cuts off some people who have exceeded the cap, while leaving many others alone. I’ve been contacted by some people who have exceeded their caps significantly for two or three months in a row and have never heard from Comcast. And they’re worried the ax is hanging over their head….

      • Mike Kozdron

        I have gone over my cap every month except 1 this year, so its now 8 out o 9 cause as of writing this im sitting at 384gbs of my 250gb cap, they have yet to contact me(knock on wood)  me and the wife use netflix streaming and hulu among connected pcs to stream tv shows off the internet to our tvs, we dont subscribe to cable tv or satellite.  but i have called comcast and the way they explained it is they are only contacting customers who are in the top 1% of over usage for their service area.  i rarely use more then 500gb which is what i think the cap should be set to. as that is reasonable if they are going to keep a cap.  problem is 3 years have passed and they have not reevaluated their cap from what i can tell…What i will do is what they told me i can do if i get contacted and thats move to thier 59.99 business plan which has no cap.

    • Devon Dickson

      “By my 
      actions, I found out that there were others out there that had the same 
      experience as I. ”999 of them? 
      But I agree that practice is ridiculous. 

  • http://twitter.com/slappsys Shawn

    Look, here
    is the deal:

    The
    “internet” is there for you and everyone else to use as much as you
    want. What is not there for anyone to use as much as they want is the
    connections to the internet created by for-profit companies such as Comcast.

    As much as
    we all want to hate these companies for controlling how we conduct our digital
    habits, your responsibility is to choose not to use their service if it is not
    what you want! Period and end of story.

    Now… that
    said,  what is a huge problem and this is
    something most customers should definitely be in uproar about, is how companies
    like AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, Comcast and Time Warner regularly advertise
    all the ways you can use the internet services they provide without disclosing
    up front plainly the limitations included.

    There seems
    to be plenty of advertising campaigns aimed at potential customers using words
    like “download”, “music”, “mp3s”,
    “stream”, “movies” and “UNLIMITED”. That’s great
    and gets the point across quickly but unfortunately it also sets up situations
    such as this where someone was told to use the service through advertising and
    did.

    Who gives a
    flying rats behind about what this guy is doing with his internet connection
    and how exactly a bandwidth cap was reached. The fact of the matter is, a
    company said use our service, the service was used and then the company disabled
    that service due to over use. How would you like the local government to tell
    you, go ahead use the roads to drive around, then they suddenly fine you for
    over driving on those same roads because you like taking extra trips around
    town? How would you like your car to suddenly stop running because you have put
    too many miles on it in one months’ time? Remember driving is a privilege and
    not a right!

    If I were to
    have say an interest group chasing these guys, I may go after misleading advertisement
    to punish them and punish them harshly I would. It is only now that stories
    such as these make it to news headlines that people are becoming aware of
    bandwidth caps on services they already have. That does not say much for the
    communication companies business practices. The decisions made right now
    regarding these issues will shape and mold our future and how we use the
    internet. Do you want the internet to be like another tax? Something you will
    surely pay for until your dead, or do you want access to this communication
    medium to be at least one thing in this world free and for everyone?

  • Expatguy1

    Ummm, what part of “if you exceed 250MB again, your account will be suspended” And please don’t try and feed us the line of crap that, “oh, they never informed me”… I got to 180MB about 4 months ago with comcast and was bombarded with phone messages and e-mails warning me of the limit.

    You seem to think you are special. If you don’t like their rules, go elsewhere. I for one would NOt want to live next to someone like you who sucks up bandwidth lke it was fresh air. I am sure if they had a 400Gm limit and you reached that you would be bitching at that as well.

    Get real….

    • Anonymous

       well…they DIDN’T inform me. i was shocked when i STUMBLED upon my data useage “bar” at the comcast web site. i go there once a month to pay my bill – that is the only page i ever see…but happened to be looking for a way to cut back on communications costs – mostly trying to figure out how to not pay so damn much for tee vee…wow! was i shocked to learn that we have been going over the arbitrary limit because there are two of us home all day and lots of netflix streaming…i work from home and use the internet for work as well.

      no, i don’t think the author thinks he is special. he is a heavy internet user and shouldn’t be punished for it, anymore than i should. comcast offers NO alternative. can’t buy up. just get shut off. now that i know about it i am terrified that they are going to cut me off and therefore cut off my livelihood. AND there is NOWHERE else to go. in the heart of silicon valley there are two (2) isp providers: comcast and at&t. they both have the same cap.

      why do you think you should have any say over how your neighbor lives his/her life?

  • jm

    takern right form the Comcast FAQ’s

    Can you NOT read??? Any you wonder why they shut you down??

    What is data usage or bandwidth usage?
    Data usage, also known as bandwidth usage, is the amount of data, such as images, movies, photos, videos, and other files that customers send, receive, download or upload over a specific period of time. Data usage is not the same as the speed of an Internet service. For example, a typical customer who uses the service to send and receive email, surf the Internet, and watch streaming video may consume 4 – 6 GB of data in a month (these numbers may vary on a monthly basis); while another customer who uploads or downloads 1,000 pictures in a month may use 10GB. In both cases, however, the speed of each customer’s service could be the same (for example, 6 Megabits per second (“Mbps”) downstream and 1 Mbps upstream).

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  • jm

    Did you even bother to read the Comcast website about your plan, it very clearly states what is used to calculate yoru usage, you have no one to blame but yourself.

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  • Fdg123

    Comcast has a MONOPOLY on cable TV in Seattle, SO I don’t think they should be allowed to cap your service. If they want to give up there monopoly, then fine.
    fdg

  • Abe

    Did you consider getting a second account and setting up your internal network to balance the monthly load across two accounts?

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  • Btrainor

    If I use a lot of power, or water, I should pay more.  The same is true of any other service including the Internet.
    Get over it, pay for what you are using, stop whining.

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  • Anonymous

    In related news, Google’s team arrived in Kansas City to finish installing their GigaBit Internet Fiber.

  • Shuklaan

    I wish there were alternatives to comcast in my area. Quest is equally hopeless.
    So, far there hasn’t been any issues with Comcast net speed, but I can feel your frustration.
    Good luck man! You have my support!

  • Ken Pyle

    Hi Andre,

    No need to approve this comment, but in an email exchange with your dad, he mentioned that Comcast sent someone to visit you.  Did they reinstate your service?  Is that for public consumption.  I am going to highlight the article I wrote in next week’s newsletter and that seems like an important piece of information. 

    Thanks,
    Ken

  • Rickmancbr

    Making internet a “right” will only raise prices and limit access. What we need is some competition. If we had three or four companies competing for our business, some one would figure out how to reduce costs and make a plan that charges for the amount of internet we use. Would your cell phone company shut off your account because you used more minutes? The company that did would soon fail.

    Comcast and other government approved monopoly’s just flat don’t care because they do not have to. YOU HAVE NO CHOICE! Your local government has restricted other ISP’s from offering internet service in your area and created this problem.

    While internet and cable TV has gone up every year, the cost of a T1 (digital pipe that handles phone lines and/or internet) has gone from thousands a month to a couple hundred a month. If my local town restricted who could offer me a T1, do you think the price would have gone down by a factor of 10?

    We do not need internet as a right, we need to be free to choose and all that want to offer us internet need access to compete. Then we will open our own ISP’s and we will run over Comcast in a heartbeat.

  • George

    Interesting read… I don’t understand how come in 2011, in the US, there are still data caps. I live in a small country in eastern Europe (Romania) and we don’t have any data caps (on wired connections) and more then decent bandwidth (I’m currently paying about  20 USD/month for a 100Mbs down/up).
    Good luck in your “fight” with the ISP.

  • Jojoshshuaua

    This summer in July we had gone over the 250Gb limit, by about 10GB or so.  Comcast never contacted us, or anything telling us to watch out if we go over it again.  We didn’t go over it again, but it still disturbes me when they cant make a simple call to warn you.

  • Jrh

    I’m having this problem now. A family member watched a huge amount of Netflix and I have had extremely slow Internet for 2 months. I’m using a new iMac so spyware an viruses don’t seem to be behind this, either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/paul.m.lizzi Paul Michael Lizzi

    Internet access is not a right…it is a paid service, and in a free market, if you do not like the service offered by one company, it is your own fault for not finding another company that will provide the service you desire..

  • gpb

    As I live in Brazil, I was VERY intrigued when I heard about data caps, cause there are no caps in Brazil, only in 3G (and that is very understandable, since these are very unstable and intended for light use networks). THAT IS ABSURD!!!!!!!! How come data providers can dictate how many data you consume???

    ps. one thing I don’t get: they didn’t even, like, charge you more for the extra data? They just cut it off?

    • http://ozymandias.com/ Ozymandias

      Yup, they just cut it off. That’s one of the main problems with data caps — for some reason, these ISPs are cutting people off entirely, instead of doing more customer-friendly solutions such as slowing their data, cutting them off for the rest of the month, charging more, or allowing use at night when there’s no congestion. When you ask why they won’t do these, they dodge the question… they’re really uncomfortable talking about it. And the most likely reason they don’t want to talk about it is that it appears their policy is designed to protect their existing legacy TV businesses from the encroachment of services such as Netflix and Hulu.

      • gpb

        But that doesn’t make any sense?
        What do they get from that?
        I think, as Comcast is the only data provider in your region and they didn’t give you any options, you may live in a restricted bandwidth area. So, if that’s true, they were right in cutting you off, because by exceeding the limit you were affecting your neighbors access. They warned you once, and then you did it again. It’s like rationing water or electricity…

  • Jason

    Comcast is digging itself a hole similar to Netflix. Netflix’s CEO tried to force change by isolating their DVD services to encourage online streaming, regardless of what their customers really wanted. Comcast is attempting the same action by discouraging online streaming with their low data cap in order to protect their cable services. If only there were a wider selection of internet providers, I’m sure a large portion of customs would immediately ditch Comcast.

  • Kal

    Why didn’t you just switch to business class service after the first warning, it’s the same price and there is no cap.

  • Anonymous

    wow. i really can’t believe all the h8 here.
    wait until you realize you are also maxing out your cap. it really doesn’t take much.
    netflix in hd instead of tee vee and you’re screwed.