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Jul 11 / Ozymandias

The Day Comcast’s Data Cap Policy Killed my Internet for 1 Year [Updated]

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[Thanks for visiting! There are five key posts to read around the Broadband ISP Data Cap issue. I’d suggest you read the first, the second, a wrap-up with tough questions for ISPs, an update with a complaint to the Attorney General, and then press coverage in that order. You are currently reading the first post. In addition, I highly recommend you read my responses (published by VentureBeat) to the evasive responses we received to my tough questions to ISPs. I believe they highlight inconsistencies and deliberate attempts at obfuscation, and may prove useful to press and officials interested in advancing the conversation.]

[Edit: added a couple of clarifying comments bracketed [like so] inline below.]

(with thanks to Wired for their image!)

What Happened:

Today I came home to find my 15 MB down/3 MB up Comcast broadband service had been shut off due to exceeding their 250 GB/month data cap policy.

This had happened the month before, and I called and had a polite but irritated conversation with Comcast’s “Customer Security” department (since the regular customer service folks could not help.) According to them I had exceeded their 250 GB monthly cap, and they asked how that might have happened. I told them the simple truth – no idea, other than regular people were probably using it a lot for reasonable things. I have roommates, we stream Netflix HD movies and Pandora music incessantly to multiple devices in the home, and I also have an open access point (in addition to a secured AP that I use to access internal network resources) for guests. I asked if they could share what was using the majority of the data so I could go address it directly, but Comcast refused to share any information there (which is probably appropriate).

I made very clear to the gentleman I spoke with that I thought Comcast’s data cap policy was arbitrary, unfair, and extremely irritating… and that if I had any decent competitive options in the neighborhood I’d dump Comcast in a heartbeat. Since I don’t, I listened to him read his canned warning that if I exceeded their cap again I’d be cut off again. I do not recall details on how long the cut off would be, likely because I spent the next few minutes working with the service agent to add notes to my record about my detailed displeasure with Comcast’s policy here. I specifically noted (and asked that it be recorded) that if this happened again I would contact the FCC, various news organizations, and otherwise make a stink. The CS agent was polite and reactivated my broadband. After hanging up I chatted with my roommates, asked them to keep an eye on bandwidth use, and also deactivated the open AP I had maintained for visitors (with regret, but this was the only area I could think of that I couldn’t completely account for bandwidth use.) Then I forgot about the whole thing until today when I found I’d been cut off again.

I called up Comcast and went through customer service hell – a Comcast special, I might note. First their regular customer service agent couldn’t help me, and sent me to their “Customer Security” group again. The Customer Security agent was polite, and after the standard identification questions notified me I was cut off for a year due to exceeding Comcast’s Acceptable Use Policy limits on their bandwidth cap. I asked for details on what had been using bandwidth, and again, Comcast would not share. In a sudden brainstorm, I then asked whether the 250 GB bandwidth cap applied to just downloads (which I had assumed, as the majority of most bandwidth used in households is downstream bandwidth), or download and upload bandwidth. Surprise, surprise! Comcast measures both upstream and downstream bandwidth – and it suddenly clicked for me.

I’m a photographer and audiophile. I shoot all of my pictures in RAW format, and I store the many hundreds and hundreds of CDs I’ve purchased over the last 20 years or so in a variety of lossless and lossy music formats. In the case of music I rip my CDs to WMA Lossless (for ease of streaming to Windows), FLAC (another lossless format, so I can stream losslessly to my Sonos system), and M4A (also known as Apple’s iTunes AAC format, so I can import my music from the media server to iTunes). I’m a big believer in storing the original, lossless digital content so that I can access it in full fidelity in the future no matter how technology evolves. In some ways that makes me a bit archaic as I still buy (used) CDs from Amazon for all of my music so I can rip it losslessly – I’m not a fan of the compressed music formats you buy and download. But the ramification is that I have terabytes of storage in my basement RAID server – each music track is duplicated three times, I have all of my original RAW photos, plus processed JPEG versions of those RAW photos, as well as a variety of other miscellaneous content – documents, spreadsheets, that sort of thing.

This stuff is valuable to me, and I recently purchased a three-year subscription to Carbonite so I could back all of this content up to the cloud. I also recently saw Amazon’s announcement of being able to upload unlimited M4A/AAC tracks to their Cloud Drive service, and decided to upload my library there so I could access it when on the road. And it turns out uploading all of this content to the cloud triggered Comcast’s bandwidth cap and caused me to be cut off from the internet – again. It was never clear to me that Comcast measures both upload and download bandwidth, and I suspect many people are going to be surprised by this in the coming years, especially as the cloud continues to become more and more a part of our lives.

Anyway, to close out the Comcast call, I asked to be reinstated and he said it was final – no appeal. I asked to escalate to a manager so I could explain my situation, and he stated there was no escalation, and repeated there was no appeal. I then asked for customer service email or other contact information so I could CC the company on a blog post (which you are reading now) and letter I would be sending to the FCC, Public Knowledge organization, New Media Foundation, the city of Seattle’s Mayor’s Office, and my Seattle City Council representative. He said he could connect me to the customer escalation line, but also stated it would not help – they wouldn’t consider removing the cap. At that point I said I wouldn’t bother wasting my time with the customer escalation line, and that I’d like to cancel my broadband. He politely said he understood, and that he’d transfer me to the appropriate department.

Time to return to Comcast customer service hell! After a few minutes I spoke with another gentlemen in the Technical Support and Billing division I’d been transferred to who, surprise, couldn’t help me since I was cancelling my (now defunct) service. He then transferred me to (wait for it!) the Retention department, since they’re apparently the only ones who can cancel a Comcast cable account. Yes, after Comcast applied their ridiculous policy and told me they didn’t want me as a customer, I was transferred to the Retention department where they insisted on driving through their spiel until I could finally interrupt, say it wasn’t going to work, and explain my situation. At which point the agent said: “Oh. I’ll take care of it, thank you for calling Comcast <click>.” As of this moment I have no idea if I’ve been cancelled or not.

[Edit: To clarify, Comcast has cut my broadband with no appeal. The text above about my attempting to cancel my account was my attempt at making sure I don't get charged for a service Comcast is no longer giving me. But right now my cable modem is dead, with no signal going into it.]

My Opinion:

My opinion on all this is simple. The ability to access broadband internet is a right, and should be defined as an essential utility. Just as you’re surprised when you flick a light switch and the light doesn’t come on so are you surprised when the internet goes away in your house. The internet is used for communication, entertainment, business — an entire panopoly of human endeavours. Just as there are protections to keep water and electricity flowing to your house, so should the internet be protected.

Now the broadband companies would strongly disagree with me here. They’re terrified of being turned into dumb pipes that only deliver data. This is why you see such vicious fights over the definition of internet neutrality, and cable companies fighting to be able to restrict services that flow over their pipes, inspect packets, or have the right to charge more for differing levels of service. They try to spin this as protecting the integrity of the network for other customers, and not having to charge more to offer service that some small percentage of their users overuse. However, these same companies are also strangely quiet when you ask them why (as in Comcast’s case) they’re able to keep boosting my broadband speed tier year after year for no additional charge. Or why their quarterly filings show their cost of providing broadband service continues to drop year after year, while rates keep going up. It doesn’t add up.

[Edit: Some disagree with my opinion above. To reiterate, I believe that internet access is a right, and an essential utility that’s needed in today’s life. That’s not supported in any legal definition in the US (though Finland recently made it a point of law, and the United Nations believes broadband access is a basic human right), but I do believe that most people would intuitively agree. Put another way, internet access long ago passed the stage of “new tech that’s interesting” to “something everyone uses and assumes you have”. Hence my electricity and water points – I believe internet falls in the same vein, and also think the current battles/discussions over the ability to control the internet are emblematic of that shared belief coming to the fore.

Several commentators have also noted that internet access is a requirement in some states for food stamp access, to attend some (offline, not internet-only) universities, and even for VoIP over fiber in some communities. This also supports my opinion that internet access is right and should be regulated as an essential utility.]

Ramifications:

Here’s what’s frightening about all this: today Comcast blocked me from using a potentially competitive music service from Amazon. Even worse, today Comcast disconnected me from the ever-evolving cloud services I use each and every day for life and work.

Amazon deserves a lot of credit for pushing the bounds on what we can do on the internet. Their recent announcement of storing unlimited music in their Cloud Drive service is a compelling alternative to Apple’s iCloud solution, and one that many might choose to use – if Comcast allows it. Are you listening Amazon?

And it gets worse – I work as a entertainment industry consultant, and depend on cloud services such as Dropbox, Simplenote, Google Apps, and Google Docs for day to day work. I use streaming online services such as Netflix, Xbox Live, Playstation Network, and Pandora every day for both work and play. I send and receive data all the time and have never had a problem with my $60/month broadband plan until A) Comcast added their data caps, and B) I really started engaging in using new cloud-based services (meaning uploading data to those services so I could get value from them).

Comcast will try to spin this, and say 250 GB is plenty for anyone – and in fact, a large percentage of their network users today probably really don’t hit this cap right now. What they don’t want to say is that streaming services such as Netflix now consume a quarter of network traffic monthly, and is projected to rise – all of which impacts the cable TV services they sell.

The last report in October suggested it made up around twenty percent of internet traffic during prime time, but this time around the stats say it accounts for 30% of traffic during prime time, and 22.2% of daily internet traffic. Sandvine gets the data from ISPs using its broadband technology and now foresees “Real-Time Entertainment” (which includes Netflix) shooting up over 55% of peak internet traffic by the end of this year.
- Engadget: Study finds Netflix is the largest source of internet traffic in North America

And in the Netflix case, 99% of that data is downstream data. Comcast doesn’t broadly advertise the fact that their cap also counts upload data – and I strongly believe as more and more people begin to “get” the cloud they’re going to want to upload their valued data to services where they can engage with it in new and interesting ways. And until broadband is deemed an essential utility, and broadband providers like Comcast can’t set an arbitrary limit and cut people off, our shared cloud-enabled future is at risk. To this end, I will be contacting various political entities in Seattle in the hope of trying to encourage either greater competition and choice in the broadband market (break Comcast’s cable monopoly, and allow fiber to the home!), as well as greater investment in a citywide, city-run broadband network.

What am I Doing:

Well, first off, I’m writing this post to lay out the facts, as well as my opinion, as to the ramifications of broadband companies like Comcast being allowed to enforce data caps and cut people off from the internet. As I mentioned earlier, I will be sending a copy of this blog post to the following people and agencies:

I’ve also tweeted out a summary of what happened, will tweet a link to this blog post, and will also reach out to a few media folks I know in case they’re interested in writing this up. I’ll also be exploring what other broadband options I might have in Seattle – but thanks to Comcast’s monopoly, my choices aren’t great.

That said, if Qwest/CenturyLink (or any other broadband provider) wants to run fiber to my house on the top of the hill in Montlake, Seattle, and put up a broadcast antenna to serve the neighborhood – I’m in. Contact me at the links on this blog, or at andre at ozymandias.com. Seriously.

[Edit: I have since added a follow up post located here. You may wish to read that after finishing reading this current post.]

 

Related posts:

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  2. Comcast Data Cap Policy News Coverage [Updated]
  3. A Cloudy Future [Updated]
  4. Update on Comcast Data Cap Situation (Including Complaint with WA Attorney General)
  • Nrfitchett4

    I agreed with you until you stated that you think high speed internet is a basic right. Electricity has rolling brownouts and water is restricted in the summer where I live. Lack of internet never killed anyone. I think instead of cutting you off, they should have doubled your rate due to you having several adults sharing one connection. You were warned.

  • jeff

    wait!!! verizon FIOS is blocked in seattle area because of a franchise agreement with who? COMCAST! What the fuck! comcast has customer by the balls or in this case by the modem

    250 GB is nothing. i burned through 1600GB on a DSL connection! and that was downloads only. when having to manage servers is remote locations and backup data i consumed that much.

    netflix, hulu. amazon even xfinity on demand via the internet each movie could be upwards of 4GB in size/ the franchise of COMCAST should then allow you to stream from their service without that counting agaist bandwidth, or having to login to their slow guide that loads 1000s of bytes of data. however they wont. they lie they are rude and they don’t care . if they did they would offer a upsale.

    why comcast do you offer 105mb down, with 10mb UP but still have 250gb limit that is a combo of up and down. does that really mean 125GB up, 125GB down? what happens if I consume 200GB up to dropbox, or a cloud based backup serivce . that give me 50GB left for down or no?

    muiltiple xboxes in a house, each game can require 250mb of updates, so 1GB if you have a lan party with 4 friends!! just to update the game

    stop the cap
    stop the mafia attitude.

    what about wifi phones, ipads, streaming everything???

  • N eee I ell

    I really don’t get the stance that Comcast is taking. Living in Europe, pulling 60G a week is not uncommon. Ok so I’m a geek – but when you pay 75$ for 30/3MB – you expect it to work.
    ISP’s should be ISP’s and not intermingled with media interests. I think indeed that it’s unhealthy for the consumer when a company wants to sell you more than just a data connection.

    The best of luck on waking up a few folks over there!

  • CV

    IT’S NOT WIRED IMAGE, IS IT SO HARD TO LOOK AT THE CREDITS http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronin691/3485511121/

    • http://ozymandias.com Ozymandias

      Actually, I made a mistake. Though my friend Rob Gruhl is a fantastic photographer, this image was taken by Filmateria Digital. I am asking Wired to update the photo credit. My apologies to the guys at Filmateria Digital for *my* mistake (Wired asked me for attributation).

  • http://fixnum.org Wim

    We’ve had caps for years in Belgium, and last year they started abolishing them. We now have a few unlimited plans, but most plans are still tiered.

    However, our speeds vary between 10 and 120Mbps, most of them are around 40 or 60. Once you exceed your bandwidth quota, you are not cut of entirely, but put on the slow lane (I believe it’s around 1Mbps, but I haven’t been on the slow lane for almost a year, so this might have changed).

    While many people here petitioned to get bandwidth caps as a whole to disappear, by comparison, our system is starting to look a whole lot better by contrast.

  • Marc

    Amirca is a strange place. You continue to brag about the freedom you have in america. At the same time large corporations hold you hostage on their terms and conditions, people can go to jail because of what they plant in their garden or are monitored by intelligence because of fundamentally excecising their rights.

    America is free for large corporations and for big money.

    Why is America not No. 1 on Internet usage & availability (last check was #16)? Because your gridlocked “freedom” for large monopolistic corporations does not require them to play fair. Internet and all other utilities is one area where this is apearant. As you do not have a proper alternative to comcast it can and will hold you hostage – it is not against the rules to do that.

    You need regulations on this, because otherwise the power is unevenly balanced and you will not have freedom for all. A functioning market would quickly resolve this issue, since others would step in offering you a better plan maybe for more money. But since comcast controls the last mile of cable there is no competition. If there is no competition markets do not work at all, they tend to worsen the situation (comcast has no incentive to improve the service they provide to you, the 250 GB cap has not changed in the last 3 years). So you need to either regulate continually, because this kind of market will allways result in monopolies or (better solution) regulate so that a working market can be established (and then you can reduce regulation).

    Somehow America seems to believe the corporations have the same rights as people (and not the same obligations). That should not be true. Corporations are a means and not the goal.

    My 2cts

    I hope you find a solution. Be heared on this.

    • Devon Dickson

      Call me a mouse running on the corporate exercise wheel, but I feel as though I can exercise any right I wish. My region is under a geographical monopoly by TimeWarner but I enjoy my 15mb/s download and nigh non-existent upload and that’s fine by me. I agree that the large companies need to be taught a lesson if they’re ever going to change, but regulation isnt the answer. In 20 years when the broadband providers have millions of customers exceeding their caps they’ll get the message. 

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  • Mike

    I didn’t read all 165 comments, but if your day-to-day work involves so much connectivity, and your work is your business, are you paying for a business plan or are you just using residential?

    • http://ozymandias.com Ozymandias

      This is a point of confusion. I use the internet for work purposes, but that bandwidth is minimal. I have worked in the same way for many years with the same Comcast service with no issue. Only when I started using new cloud services which use a lot of upstream data to backup my personal content did I hit this issue. Short answer, I never needed a business class account.

      • Rik

        i would also suggest sharing your blog with Apple home of the iCloud.. Amazon.. Netflix and any other business that depends on streaming.. you may be the first, but i doubt you will be the last that finds themselves cut off soon!

  • Frank

    We got the warning a year or two ago here in Pittsburgh… it’s crap… hate it… sucks. They need to be prepared for growth…

  • http://www.animalspots.com Allan Stallard

    I equate internet connectivity as a utility and as much a “right” as water, gas, or electric. In a modern household this is just the way it is. Times have changed. We depend on internet connection more so than telephone or cable.

    People who don’t use clouds or stream for their entertainment wont get it…..until the day comes when they are in the same shoes…

  • Eric

    Comcast has it’s days numbered with the Internet, broadband is great but it’s old and its tapped out at 40mbs. There will new ways to connect and comcast will fall by the way side like dial up. I wonder if the guys from Anonymous would jump in the fight for you. I feel bad that this happened, if enough people see this and decide to take a stand then comcast will have to change it rules. I hope this changes.

  • http://www.scapecaster.com Matthew Kent

    The issue here is that Comcast is claiming that their bandwidth cap is to protect his neighbor’s bandwidth. If they are not able to provide 15Mbps to every person that they are selling it to, then they shouldn’t be advertising 15Mbps+ speeds. However, as someone who is familiar with their core infrastructure, I can say that support for their advertised speeds is not an issue nor is the cost of the bandwidth. As for infrastructural that is being deployed to his home, the government subsidizes that cost and has paid billions of dollars to ATT and Comcast to roll out lines that were never installed.

    • http://ozymandias.com Ozymandias

      That’s the issue as Comcast would like you to think. But Comcast has rolled out DOCSIS 3.0 in Seattle, increased bandwidth dramatically, and still not raised or removed caps.

      • http://www.havoxx.info Oscar

        Come to SC, we got charter, people say it sucks, but you can get 60 mbps right now, and they are working on 100 :D

  • Eugene

    Has it ever occurred to you that you share the internet with all the other citizens of this planet?
    And that there have to be rules for fair use, so that a few selfish people (wink wink) don’t hog it all for themselves?

    Your sense of entitlement is breathtakingly arrogant.

    • Daniyar

      Internet is a utility just like water, gas or electricity that have no caps. They might have tiered pricing like water in Arizona, but should never be turned off as long as you pay the bill.

      It should not be my concern if I share the internet with my neighbors or not, I am not on a group plan, I am on an individual plan that I myself pay for. If they are having bandwidth issues, then they shouldn’t be advertising those tiers.

      After all, many countries have internet access where your bandwidth changes based on time of day. I see no reason why Comcast can’t make it unlimited between midnight and 6 am so people can back up their data. I bet 1 out of 50 subscribers would even take advantage of that. Comcast is basically discriminating against tech savvy people and photo/music hobbyists. I personally have almost a TB of RAW images, it would take me half a year to back it up using Comcast.

      Comcast is still living in the age of < 1TB hard drives and DVD quality video. With their cap I can't even watch 1 movie per day in HDX quality from VUDU. That is unacceptable.

      Good luck in your fight against Comcast.

      • Clquake

        Water is not an unlimited utility.  Guaranteed if you keep your water flowing at max flow for 30 days, they’ll shut you off since clean water is a finite resource and the town/city needs to make sure every resident has a fair share.  Probably the same with gas, although I can’t imagine how on earth you would use that much gas.  With electrical, you’re limited by your own equipment (fuse/breaker box) and the neighborhood’s main transformers.

        If you’re using that much bandwidth, you’re compromising service in your immediate area.  Not your concern you say, well then, when one of your neighbors uses 95% of the bandwidth in your area, and pays the same price as you, then you might change your mind.  Get a dedicated internet connection (T1?), not a cable service.

        1 TB of RAW images?  Are you running a photo business?  Just curious.  A lot of residential service agreements prohibit business use, but that mainly because of the bandwidth issue.

        I do agree that caps are pretty shitty, but are needed to maintain fair service to everyone without having to upgrade their equipment every 6 months and raise prices just to keep up with one person’s usage.  

        Side note…..If you’re streaming 1 HD movie a day, you really need to get out more.

        • Devon Dickson

          The appropriate solution is for these corp. to upgrade their infrastructure so theirs no chance you can hog all the internet. Internet is infinite, you just need a bigger pipe. Also, I have a well that provides a virtually infinite supply of water, I’m only limited by how wide the pipes are.

    • Shiguza

      Your ignorance is astonishing.

      There’s no limit to the internet, it shouldn’t be capped, at all, especially if Comcast is now having DOCSIS3.0.

      We’re getting ripped off in North America for bandwidth, open your eyes!

      • Casey Jones

        “There’s no limit to the internet, it shouldn’t be capped… “.  

        Huh?

        This gentleman is using 250,000,000,000 bytes of data per month.  If every one of the 7 billion humans used that much data it woulc be 1,750,000,000,000,000,000,000 bytes per month.  All of which has to be processed by computers at numerous points along the way between source and destination.   My math is probably not perfect, but the point remains, even the internet has limits.   It reminds me of how back in the 1950′s and 60′s we added thousands of miles of freeways which were supposed to make commuting a cinch and allow us to cruise down the road at 70 mph whenever we wanted to.   No one envisioned how clogged those freeways would become in a few short years.

        • dee

          your math is off since its 250GB x 1024 x1024 x1024 bytes, and no, computers dont have to process all data, only network equiment is needed to route the data, which does not examine packet content, just headers.
          There are plenty of uncongested freeways and much more so for the internet.

        • dee

          your math is off since its 250GB x 1024 x1024 x1024 bytes, and no, computers dont have to process all data, only network equiment is needed to route the data, which does not examine packet content, just headers.
          There are plenty of uncongested freeways and much more so for the internet.

    • http://www.rickeyroach.com Rickey

      Eugene…really?! The Internet itself isn’t the problem here! It has no bandwidth limitations…effectively…it’s the connection that is the issue here. Comcast caps the monthly usage to access the content on the web. These caps are ridiculous! You sir should learn what The Internet is and then what an Internet Connection is. They are not one in the same!

  • VA

    You are absolutely right. I am in a similar bucket, though I havent been banned yet. They have no options for power users. Im willing to pay a little more for more data consumption, but they only have options of higher speeds, not higher data.
    I am a person who uses dropbox, netflix, pandora, hulu, HD streaming, Xbox live amongst various other applications. Plus I do cloud backups as well.

    Comcast really sucks, the next time I move someplace, im going to make sure that they have Verizon Internet there (Afaik, the only provider without caps)

  • John Moderates

    Your an idiot for blaming someone else for what you did to yourself. I wish the federal government would cap welfare as efficiently as comcast caps GBs.

    • http://mannitt.com/ Jeff

      So anyone who thinks something is unfair, is an idiot? I hope you are not in America, because you are in the wrong country. America is the original child screaming “not fair” and “I’m not going to take the BS!”. Freedom is control of the country. Not the rich people, corporations, or even the government. We elect them.

    • Coleman

      You can’t be serious. I wish someone would cap horrid, ignorant people like you as efficiently as Comcast caps GBs.

    • John is an idiot

      You’re an idiot for using “your”.

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  • http://www.SocialMediopolis.com MP Crosson

    Sorry, but Comcast has every right to restrict excessive usage, which is clearly the case here. As a super power user, you should find alternative direct access, even if it is much more expensive.

  • houkouonchi

    Here is the solution:

    Find a friend in the same city as you (would be best if they aren’t a current subscriber). Even if they are get the more expensive uncapped business service.

    Once they get it installed just bring the modem over to your house. All the authorization is done by the modem so it will work even at a different persons house as its all done by the HFC mac address. If they haven’t banned you from TV you might want to order their basic cable TV service to keep your coax line connected (although they don’t usually bother disconnecting it if its internet only and has a filter on it to filter TV).

  • Joel

    I had my comcast subsciption cut just like that too.
    I got one warning, as you did, but, at least I asked a few questions. I was told that it counts both upstream and down stream data, So I knew that much at least. They got me with the counter start/end dates. After I got scolded from the special Customer Security department, I was transfered to the billing department for some reason. Where I asked a few more questions… they told me that my data was reset on the same time line as my billing period. WRONG ANSWER!!
    A few weeks later, I got another call from comcast customer security department again, this time telling me that I was cut off. I asked why?? I monitored my traffic and never went over the limit, he says sure you did, it says right here you did. After a few more minutes of back and forth and his lick-n-stick answers, I got him to tell me that they measure bandwidth on a monthly basis, not when I paid my bill.
    So, my personal counter was pointless cause I was told the wrong info (start date) from them to begin with. Needless to say, I fought with them for a while about not being more clear up front about it
    Nothing ever happened, it was like talking to a brick wall. Pointless. Luckily, I had a small local ISP to turn to and had internet two days after getting cut from Comcast. Not as fast, but I will take no data caps instead. :)

    tl;dr
    I got cut from comcast and haven’t looked back. Thankfully I had a local ISP with no data caps. :)

  • http://mannitt.com/ Jeff

    Don’t take this wrong, I do not mean this in a haha way at all, but I am happy this happened to you. Because of your calmness and great writing and knowledge of who to contact. It really sucks that this happened period and I would not have used as nice and calm words as you. I have not read any of the comments, but I did read an article on your post and then read your post. I am going to read your update post next. I hope you get somewhere with this and I support the right of internet all the way. I will be sharing this blog everywhere that I can.

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  • http://www.rickeyroach.com Rickey

    I feel data caps are an absurd way of these mega-conglomerates to tell people they don’t want them if they are going to use what they pay for! I have AT&T U-Verse here in Columbus, OH. I love it, they also have a 250GB cap. I’ve not reached that limit…yet! I did, however, come close last month! I setup my router to turn off my internet connection if I reach my limit. I am unsure of whether they count uploads in the calculation of their data cap!

  • Clark

    Good luck brother! I hope you teach them a lesson! I have to limit my traffic as well so I am not cut off!

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  • Todd

    brian_roberts@comcast.com

    CEO, yes, its him.

  • George

    Haha. I love the fact that comcast is one of the ads on the page. Fool.
    A company doesn’t have to do business with you. Get DSL….

  • Craig S Phillips

    Its understandable that a conflict exists between what the customer wants and what the company policy provides for. A company may be set up to benefit ALL the customers and write their policies to reflect such. This, of course, will not settle well with all customers. That is obvious here. One would assume, though, that a reasonably minded individual would sacrifice, or modify at least, their use to accommodate the needs of all. I mean, why put all your cards on the table when the result of losing would mean failure? One can also assume that an individual in this highly competitive society is not the only chronic “user” and that “they” may even use more than “them”. Try some teamwork and pretend that you understand that your clogging up the system DOES affect others.

  • Katy

    OMgoodness do I HATE and I mean HATE Comcast! Just like Time Warner Cable down south….they are money thieves! I had to deal with them today on something that was their fault and a computer glitch about our auto withdrawls and they blamed it on me…that being after I was transferred to 3 different people! If we could go with another company I would also!! Much luck!

  • J

    How many hours a day are you on the Internet exactly anyway? Seems to me if you were running that close with no room for error, probably should have found other alternatives, I’m sure in Seattle there would have to be some, just more expensive. Some of the other commentors on here when faced with a similar problem seemed to have at least tracked their bandwidth after that warning a little more careful than you did. You can’t say at least, fair or unfair, that you were not warned what the rule was. Term suspended shouldn’t matter. Are you saying if it was only a month as opposed to a year, you wouldn’t care? Some one who uses Netflix, Pandora, Itunes, Dropbox, etc.etc. must have a lot of time on their hands, I wish I did to use all that stuff! You also should have looked at how much bandwidth each roommate, depending on how many live there, was using. If it is in use 24 hours a day by 9-10 people in your house, then I don’t feel sorry, because it’s as if you are trying to get out of paying equal share. I agree that Internet is a useful function in most modern households these days, but I stop short of putting it in the same category as food, water, and power. I don’t think a human would die if they didn’t have the Internet, as opposed to what would happen if you didn’t have the others. If we were in a third world country, we’d be having a different conversation about priorities in life. I may not always have the greatest relationship with Comcast, and I appreciate your politeness with them, but I have to tell you, you can find this battle even at the competition, Verizon, Centurylink, and in city-run broadbands. So my question is, what is a fair system that works for both sides, you and Comcast. How would a system be structured so everyone has availability to the bandwidth they need, while at the same time ensuring that people who used more bandwidth paid their equal share, while at the same time, being fair to the companies that provide them. Also, how much exactly are you willing to pay for the services? How rich is too rich for your blood? I am not against your argument, but I am curious to see what your ideas are realistically and not one-sided to fix the problem that you are having while maintaining fairness for everyone.

  • alicynx

    I’m confused – are you completely unaware of dedicated connections? Business plans? Fiber? If you’re going over 250 GIGS of traffic, you honestly need to look at options outside of a residential connection. Sure, they cost more, but whining online about it won’t fix the problem, and you look kind of small complaining about Comcast shutting you down over this when you have A LOT of other options. If you’re a power user that is really knowledgeable about internet technologies, then why aren’t you getting a frac T1 and splitting the cost between your roommates? Why didn’t you discuss business plan options with the Comcast rep, which can remove those caps if you’re an internet based business/contractor? No, instead you want to get on a soapbox with your “free food for the poor” rant. Internet service is a luxury, not a right. While I’m not about corporatizing the world, I do acknowledge that it takes money and resources to maintain these pipes – and if I need to use a lot of bandwidth, I find the best fit instead of expecting to have it given carte blanche for a small monthly fee.
    Long and short – if you’re using a lot, get a bigger, dedicated pipe. The people you were sharing that bandwidth with will be grateful.

    • M. M. M.

      If bandwidth is really their concern, then why don’t Comcast’s own services count against against their caps? Not to mention the fact that some of us signed up with Comcast before their caps, and some of us don’t have other options. And, even if folks do decide to use Comcast’s business plans, due to lack of alternatives, Comcast has stated that there’s no guarantee they won’t be putting a cap in place for business usage, and the contract you have to sign even allows them to instate the cap if it’s not what you signed up for originally (their reps will even tell you that if you ask).

    • Anonymous

      A fractional T1? you mean a fraction of 1.54Mbit? Those cost about $400/ month and are slow as shit.

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  • Kenmecca

    Ok it’s a right like water and peer. The more you use the more you pay. Like these utilities if you move up to a new tier you pay more per xx. I think they should just charge u an arm a leg if you want to be a bandwidth hog. I’d hate u in my neighbor hood as u would hinder my ability to download my stuff

  • Michael Cummins

    The thing I find to be such a bore about this is I already run a sidebar gadget that gives me my totals unless I reset the gadget. Also, you run a server and you can’t proxy everything through that and get some idea of your total and have it email you when it gets close to the cap? I mean, you *knew* there was a cap, right – it was the second month in a row, right? Oh and just on the off chance you run one of those fancy shmancy FLOSSes – I also wonder why you hadn’t thought of having something like syslog showing your total bandwidth used.

    Don’t get me wrong. I do think you got screwed, because there does appear to be some kind of monopoly up there. But it was the second month in a row, and I want you to know that being a proactive kind of person means you would have done one thing right off the bat the first time any of the caps became a problem.

    “How do I make certain this *never* happens again?”

    You did not do that. I hope whomever you work for does not read too much into that. Then again, maybe a good ass chewing would help you remember this old adage; “An ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure.”

    Yes – I do consulting. I don’t have problems like yours. Ever. Have a nice day.

  • M. M. M.

    File a better business bureau complaint, without seeking resolution.

    I went over my limit for 3 months (not 2 months) in a row due to VPN usage after working from home while sick.

    I did that and was able to get someone from Comcast’s local corporate office, who spent days trying to get in contact with me then fell over herself trying to get me to retract my complaint. I’d signed onto Comcast in 2007 before their caps, and still have the flier that says unlimited usage — which helped in my complaint filing.

    PS> I have co-workers who have shown me their data usage meter, who’ve run upwards of 550 gbs a month for 6 months without a warning or peep from Comcast. If this really was a bandwidth issue, you’d think they’d at least be consistent with the policy. This is clearly Comcast not wanting folks to switch to other services like Netflix and Hulu… Comcast’s On-Demand doesn’t count toward your bandwidth limit, but better services do…

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  • Turt99

    This whole thing is being way over hyped. You went over the data cap, and saying “I didn’t know it was upload too” is not a valid excuse, of course it includes both, its not like you are paying comcast for one direction and someone else for the other. Plus ignorance is not a valid excuse.

    I do think that comcast could have done something else other then cut you off for a year. IE, they could charge you more for overage. But they have rules and limits and you broke them, I’m sure its in your contract.

  • Steve

    You sir really are an idiot. I’m glad that Comcast did this to you. Next time get a business connection since obviously you go over the residential account boundaries.

    • Anonymous

       apparently comcast didn’t offer that as an option. hope you reach your cap and get shut off.

  • Russ

    Internet usage no matter who identifies it as a right, is a privlege similiar to driving a car or voting and can be removed at any time. Your ignorance of Comcast’s policies are no excuse just like breaking a law you didn’t know about was no excuse. Somewhere you either agreed to by continuing to use their service or signed a paper to this fact stating what their policies were. This could easily have been an insert in your bill or even being printed on your bill.

    Sorry, but you breached their policies and I have no sympathy for you.

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  • jgarland

    “The United Nations, in fact, recently declared that disconnecting people from the Internet is a violation of human rights.”http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/14/is-internet-access-a-human-right/?hpt=te_bn1

  • Gearbunny

    1) You, sir, did not read your AUP.
    2) You were warned, and chose not to heed the warning.
    3) You, as a self-admitted technophile, should have been aware that bandwidth is bi-directional.
    4) You have other options to gain access to the internet. You are cut off from one provider, there is nothing stopping you from seeking internet elsewhere.

    • Devon Dickson

      Except that ugly word: monopoly

  • Casey Jones

    Although I despise the way a few companies are allowed to dominate the broadband and cable markets, I must say I understand the need for data caps.  You compared broadband service to water and electricity.  Well what do you think would happen if a few of your neighbors decided they needed to draw 500 gallons of water an hour at all times, most of it being used for entertainment purposes?  Perhaps they installed a huge aquarium for their pet whales ….   You’d quickly find the flow of water to your house severely compromised and would be screaming for the water company to do something about it.

    Yes, fast internet access has become essential for business and a boon for students, but I strongly disagree that the ability to download movies and upload music and photos is a “right”.   You come across sounding selfish and out of touch when you make such a claim from you hilltop home in the Seattle area.  Modern technology is a fantastic addition to our lives, but not a right.

  • Casey Jones

    Although I despise the way a few companies are allowed to dominate the broadband and cable markets, I must say I understand the need for data caps.  You compared broadband service to water and electricity.  Well what do you think would happen if a few of your neighbors decided they needed to draw 500 gallons of water an hour at all times, most of it being used for entertainment purposes?  Perhaps they installed a huge aquarium for their pet whales ….   You’d quickly find the flow of water to your house severely compromised and would be screaming for the water company to do something about it.

    Yes, fast internet access has become essential for business and a boon for students, but I strongly disagree that the ability to download movies and upload music and photos is a “right”.   You come across sounding selfish and out of touch when you make such a claim from you hilltop home in the Seattle area.  Modern technology is a fantastic addition to our lives, but not a right.

  • Scanff

    Good article.  Netflix, Amazon, Zune etc … should all be informed about this.  It sounds like someone needs to take action against this scam.

    I’ve rented about 10 movies from XBOX live (each 8.4GB HD) over the past few weeks and Used Netflix and Amazon, not to mention my VOIP on Vonage.  I wonder if their Voip counts against the limit!!!!

    I’m probably over this limit.  If they cut me off I’ll be contacting Netflix, Vonage, Microsoft and Amazon to tell them about this, also why they are losing my business.

    Comcast touts a 50Meg speed but every speed test I’ve ever done averages about 5Megs.  Not sure how they are  getting away with this BS.

    • Devon Dickson

      They advertise in megabits, which is standard, but your observing your speed in megabytes. There’s 8 bits in a byte.

  • Usualsuspect

    So you feel that unlimited data transmission is something you should get for a flat fee?  That would be a wonderful world.  As an average Comcast user, I really don’t like the idea of you slowing my speeds down because you want to use more than your share of a finite resource.  Your usage scenario sounds like you should have a commercial account.  Would you accept a steep fine or a fee for every gigabyte  you use, over and above the 250 cap, if that meant getting your Comcast service back?   I do agree that we have allowed Comcast and others a monopoly on fast internet.  Not enough competition.  Laws should be changed to allow competing ISP’s to use Comcast’s pipes, the same way dial up ISP’s used to compete for your business using the phone companies (small) pipes.   I think we in the US rank somewhere like 27th in the world for download speed.  And we invented it.       

    • GFY

      Internet speed is only as finite as the amount of data available in an area. If Comcast offers residential services and commercial services in an area, and people who are heavy users subscribe to business class services and continue to utilize it the same way, and comcast does nothing to change their network it would slow you the exact same amount. The overall issue here is that regardless of the reasoning, comcast wants to remove the viability of cloud/remote services and restrict the flow of high quality media via their internet pipe, which if you’re running in a docsis 3 market space they have literally no reason to do. Sandvining and slowing connections was relevant when the actual radio signal from your modem was clogging up the pipe, now that docsis 3 is around, they’ve more than tripled the number of frequencies used for data.  The fact is that this technology and any advancements to it make the point of having direct fiber to the home irrelevant, if properly managed. And so to your point, if anyone is at fault here it’s Comcast, they were the first North American ISP to limit bandwidth for home subscribers, and all other ISP’s followed suit. 

  • Eclectic1

    Consider taking them to small claims court. Their action is an illegal restraint of trade.Under the doctrine of ‘superior knowledge’ they are held as knowing this action would happen. Them not telling you what you jad asked makes them complicit. Ask the court to consider them a ‘common carrier’, and watch them fold.

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  • Rich Colbert

    I’m dumbfounded by the majority of comments that treat this as a data service or capacity issue.  What’s clear is that Comcast is protecting it’s cable television business by making it impractical for people to use the Internet as an alternative source of digital media.  Comcast is not worried about provisioning bandwidth.  They are worried about losing cable TV subscribers in droves.  I have to admit that when you run the numbers that dropping down to a basic Comcast triple play package (phone, Internet, and non-premium cable TV), and then using NetFlix or Amazon on demand for the occasional movie viewing is compelling compared to a top-tier plan.  So compelling that you are starting to see less of a gap between the price for the basic and the everything-but-the-kitchen-sink packages.

    The cable and satellite TV industries are seeing their control over content slowly erode via the Internet.  All they have to do is look at what happened with digital voice service a few years back.  POTS lines have quickly gone the way of the dodo for many residential customers, and guess who is now leading the charge;  Comcast.  But it was not always that way.  For a few years early on Comcast was playing the same games trying to keep Vonage off their networks.

    Think of all the BS we have to accept today as television consumers.  Do you really have choice when it comes to cable TV?  In most markets the answer is no.  You have one cable provider to choose from, and that provider offers a few tiers of programming with usually only the highest tiers having the content you want.  HD video over the Internet from legitimate sources such as Amazon and Netflix, directly to devices such as TV’s, Tivo’s, and video game consoles represent a huge disruption for Comcast and the rest of the cable industry.  I think it’s obvious that consumers have the most to gain by the continued growth of these alternative sources of TV content.

    Whether or not you want these choices is one thing.  The fact that Comcast is protecting it’s cable TV business by making it more difficult to utilize your data services as a primary means of entertainment is a separate issue.  The real question is does Comcast hold a monopoly position *in your own home* as the sole provider of HD content and data.  If so, do they have the right to block out other HD content providers on the data side in order to protect HDTV content on the cable TV side.

    Comcast has fought disruption at every turn.  There was a time when they would only support a single, directly connected computer to their cable modem, and would actually shut you off if they became aware that you were using a home router and NAT to allow several devices to share the connection.  Over time the home router became the defacto standard, and so Comcast stopped fighting them and started selling them to you instead.

    It’s only a matter of time, but in the future I predict we will have strong protections between content and plumbing.  In other words, Comcast can be provide both, but will be greatly limited when it comes to using one business to hinder competition in the other.  Comcast would do better to get ahead of the curve and figure out a way to capitalize on the changes underway rather than hindering them to protect their rapidly decaying cable TV business model.

    • Jdw650

      Didn’t read your post before I wrote mine. You said exactly what I was saying only better. I agree with you completely.